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Jane: This is But Why: A Podcast
for Curious Kids from Vermont

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Public. I'm Jane Lindholm. On
this show, we take questions

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from kids all over the world
just like you, and we find

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interesting people to answer
them. Do you have a sweet tooth?

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Do you love lollipops and sour
candies? Gummies? Maybe

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chocolates, sweets, candy,
lollies, whatever you call them,

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many of us find these sweet
treats irresistible. And here in

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the United States, the holiday
many people celebrate on October

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31, Halloween, has basically
become an excuse to collect and

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eat a lot of candy. So at this
time of year, when many young

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minds turn to thoughts of
sweets, we thought we'd learn a

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little bit more about what candy
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Craig Montgomery: Candy comes in
all sorts of shapes, sizes and

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textures. Usually it has a sugar
base, or it's made out of sugar

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most of the time, or different
forms of sugar, like honey or

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natural sugars from apples and
fruits. But typically what I

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think of when I think about
candies, like chocolate or

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gummies or like hard candies,
like lollipops and stuff like

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that. My name is Craig
Montgomery, owner of Sticky here

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in the United States.

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Jane: Sticky is a candy company,
so Craig is a good person to

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help answer a few of your
candylicious questions. The

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definition of candy is actually
a little complicated, because it

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can mean different things in
different cultures. What's a

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candy to you might be considered
a dessert to me, and some people

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think of chocolate as candy, but
others consider chocolate a sort

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of separate category altogether.
One thing, though, is for

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certain: at the heart of all
candy is sugar.

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Ashton: Hi, my name is Axton
from Edmonton, Canada. I'm seven

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years old, and my question is
who created candy?

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Jane: Humans have always sought
out sweetness, so there's no way

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to say who created the first
candies. Humans found sweetness

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in natural substances like
honey, maple syrup, sugar cane

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and sugar beets. And ancient
cultures created many treats out

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of honey and nuts. So people
have been making candy, I guess

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you could call it, for thousands
of years. But the kind of candy

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we think about in modern times
only became possible when humans

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developed a reliable source of
sugar they could grow or

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cultivate as a crop, and then
when sugar could be shipped

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around the world, that was
another milestone in the candy

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story. Candy used to be
something only very wealthy

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people could afford to buy, but
over time, sugar became much

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more readily available and a lot
cheaper. And the modern candy

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industry was born. Some of the
earliest candy available for

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people to purchase for fun was
very hard candy. It was so hard

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it was kind of like sucking on a
rock. That's the kind of candy

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Sticky, the company Craig
Montgomery runs, still makes

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today.

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Craig Montgomery: we make
traditional, handmade rock

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candy. A lot of people these
days say this is like that candy

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my grandma used to have on our
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created a long time ago. Came to
popularity in the UK in seaside

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towns, where they would sculpt
the seaside town name like

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Blackpool or Brighton, inside of
the candy, and sell it as sticks

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of rock. It's made up of sugar
and glucose. And we put little

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pictures of different designs,
like fruits or animals or

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skeletons and Frankenstein's
monsters, different things like

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that, inside of the candy, and
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smaller and more bite size and
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Richard: My name is Richard. I
live in Los Alamos, New Mexico.

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I'm five years old, and I want
to know how is candy made?

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Jane: There are lots of ways to
make candy, because there are

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lots of different kinds of
candy, but let's use the rock

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candy they make it Sticky as our
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Craig Montgomery: for us to make
candy. Essentially, we're just

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glorified sugar boilers. We boil
about 18 pounds of sugar and

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then we add a sugar syrup,
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be a crystal, and it needs some
sort of a doctor, like a glucose

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which we use other companies use
high fructose corn syrup, or a

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tapioca, which prohibits the
crystals in the sugar to

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recrystallize. And so we're able
to kind of work with those where

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we'll add different colors, we
cool it down until it's kind of

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like play-doh. Or clay. And then
we work on a heated table that

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keeps the candy kind of squishy,
malleable for us to kind of

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sculpt each element of the
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Jane: Let's break this down.
Craig starts with sugar crystals

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and water and heats them
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liquid. He also adds another
kind of sugar to keep those

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sugar crystals from turning back
into crystals when they cool

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down. You can actually make your
own rock candy without that

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other type of sugar, and you'll
find your finished candy looks

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like, well, crystals. It has
lots of little crystals attached

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to one another. But Craig and
other candy makers want a hard

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candy that is smooth, so they
add that other type of sugar,

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glucose, or corn syrup, for
example, to help make sure it

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stays smooth as it cools down
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Craig Montgomery: Fun fact, back
in the day when they would do

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like old Western movies and the
stuntmen would jump through that

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pane of glass, it was actually
sugar cooked up this way because

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it is very transparent and it
looks like glass, but with

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stuntman's glass, and so they
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it'd have that breaking effect,
but it wouldn't be stuck in

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their skin to where they'd have
to be having it removed. So it

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would basically kind of turn
into something like glass.

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Jane: But Craig doesn't want a
thin sheet of glass. So when the

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candy is in that hot lava or
play-doh stage, they take it out

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of the pot and mix in food
coloring to make the candy lots

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of different colors. And then
they stretch and pull it to mix

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in air bubbles and make it nice
and shiny. This is when they

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start building the candy pieces
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middle. You might eventually pop
one little piece of candy into

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your mouth, but when they start
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they make them really big, way
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Craig Montgomery: As we make it,
it's probably about six to eight

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inches in size, and we typically
try and work in squares or

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circles. So if we're creating,
like, say, an apple shape, we

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start out with it round as like
a cylinder, or almost like a

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pipe with unstretched candy
wrapped around stretched candy,

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to give it kind of this, like
apple skin definition. And then

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we put a little indent in the
bottom, like your normal apple

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has a little apple bottom, and
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white inside of that crease to
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every shape we make, we have to
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that, so that, because the candy
always wants to kind of go flat

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because it's hot.

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Jane: So then they have a giant
pipe of candy with that picture

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in the middle, but it's still
way too big to eat. So quickly,

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before the candy gets hard, they
pull and stretch that cylinder

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or pipe of soft sugar until it's
really, really thin. I guess you

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could kind of imagine, like how
you roll out dough to make a

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pretzel, or maybe if you play
with play-doh until it's a thin

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snake, they're kind of doing
that. The picture in the candy

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gets stretched and shrunk down
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and what you're left with is a
rock hard candy with little

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letters or pictures in it. You
can cut that stick of candy into

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bite-sized pieces, and voila,
you've got your rock. Coming up,

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more answers to your questions
about candy.

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I'm Jane Lindholm, and this is
But Why, a Podcast for Curious

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Kids. We are learning about
delicious candy and how it's

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made. Today we have another
candy maker joining us? Well,

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actually. two.

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Steve Andrianos: I'm Steve
Andrianos, owner and candy

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maker.

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Julia Jackson: I'm Julia I'm a
candy maker as well. At Steve's

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place of business.

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Jane: Steve Andrianos owns
Hercules Candy. The company was

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started over a hundred years ago
by Steve's grandfather in East

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Syracuse, New York. Julia
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makers who works with Steve.

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Steve Andrianos: We basically
make candy the old fashioned

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way. A lot of things are made by
hand. A lot of things. We have

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some in robers, which chocolate
cover things, and we make hard

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candies and clusters and sorted
chocolates and ribbon candy and

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all kinds of things.

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Jane: They even use many of
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Julia describes the process for
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Julia Jackson: It's pretty
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sugar, corn syrup and water, and
you heat it up. It's called like

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a hard crack stage, which you
heat it up to 310 and then we

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just manipulate it until little
pieces that we want add the

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flavor that we want. Once it's
heated up to the temperature we

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want, it's like this really hot,
like liquid lava, and then you

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pour it onto a cold surface, and
eventually, over time, minute by

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minute, it gets more moldable,
kind of like play-doh-ish, for

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people who don't look at it and.
So it's at a point where you can

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handle it and you can cut it
into the little pieces. So it's

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basically just, it's basically
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Jane: Some candy gets bent or
folded or molded into special

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shapes that can take some
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Julia Jackson: My favorites is
candy canes. I love making candy

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canes. No one else likes it
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But I love the little challenge.

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Steve Andrianos: Ribbon candy,
that's, we all, that's all made

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with our fingers, making ribbon
candy because we pull it out

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really nice and thin, like a
ribbon, and we cut it off, and

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then the next person takes it
with their fingers. They twist

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it so it looks like a ribbon.

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Julia Jackson: And it's hard
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pieces and crunch on it.

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Steve Andrianos: It hardens up
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gotta do it fast.

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Ava: Hi. My name is Ava. I live
in Syosset, and my I'm eight,

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and my question is, why is candy
so sweet? I'm asking this

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because it's Halloween. When I
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Steve Andrianos: most candies
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sugar, yeah, and then more
sugar. So basically it's just...

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Julia Jackson: A sugar,
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Steve Andrianos: Sugar
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Meera: Yeah. My name is Meera.
I'm three years old. I live in

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Cary, North Carolina. And my
question is how are gummies

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made?

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Steve Andrianos: Gummies and
jelly beans are made starch

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casting, they call it.

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Jane: Starch casting is the
method for making a mold for the

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shape of a gummy so you don't
have to try to get a gummy bear

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out of a tricky silicone or
metal mold. You just push the

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shape you want to make into
cornstarch, which is a nice,

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smooth edible powder. The candy
itself is heated up liquid made

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from sugar and water and
flavorings and some gelatin or

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pectin that gives the gummy a
nice gummy texture. Gelatin

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contains proteins that will hold
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suspension. So you pour that
nice hot mixture into the molds

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you made out of cornstarch, let
them cool down and harden into a

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gummy texture. And then when
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just take them out and let that
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Knox: Hi. My name is Knox. I'm
six years old. My question is,

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how does Candy Corn get made?

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Jane: Candy Corn are tri
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you often see around Halloween.
Their shapes are made through

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starch casting as well. Candy
Corn includes an ingredient

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called mallowcreme, which gives
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and color. Candy Corn actually
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Philadelphia, and back then it
was called chicken feed!

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Oliver: Hi, my name is Oliver,
and I'm six years old, and I

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live in Millersburg, Ohio, and
my question is, why does hard

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candy melt in your mouth?

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Stella: Hello. My name is
Stella. I'm seven years old. I

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live in Long Valley, New Jersey.
And my question is, why does

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cotton candy dissolve when it's
wet?

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Steve Andrianos: That's just
like take, if you just took a

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tablespoon of sugar and put it
in a cup of water, it will just

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dissolve, dissolve away. So the
same effect will happen in your

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mouth. Or when the hard candy,
it will just dissolve.

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Julia Jackson: Yes, bigger likes
warm, wet areas, yeah, it just

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dissolves, just the sugar.

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Jane: What's happening in your
mouth when you put a piece of

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hard candy in there is that
saliva breaks down the bonds

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between the sugar molecules and
they dissolve. Okay, a few more

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candy questions.

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Evan: My name is Evan. I'm
almost five years old, and my

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question is, what are Nerds?

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Jane: If you're unfamiliar with
Nerds, they're tiny, colorful

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pieces of candy that come in
small boxes, usually one flavor

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on one side of the box and a
second flavor on the other side,

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so you can eat them one at a
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whatever you prefer. Nerds are
made from a sugar crystal that

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is coated with multiple layers
of liquid corn syrup. It then

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gets spun in a pan so that more
layers grow on it. They then

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take on all the odd shapes you
expect from nerds, and they get

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colored. If you like, Nerds
Ropes and Nerds gummy clusters,

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that's just gummy candy with a
lot of Nerds spread onto it.

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Sometimes the nerds are stuck to
a small gummy ball. For ropes,

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they're stuck to a longer piece
of gummy... How do they even

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come up with these things?

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Daisy: My name is Daisy, and I'm
four and a half years old, and

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I'm from Florida. I want to know
why popping candy pops in your

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mouth.

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Will: Hi, my name is Will. I'm
eight years old. I live in

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Richmond, Virginia, and my
question is, how do Pop Rocks

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pop?

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Jane: Have you ever heard a
popping candy like Pop Rocks?

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That's a candy that creates a
fizzy, popping sensation when

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you put it on your tongue. I
actually have a packet right

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here with me. I'm going to eat
some and see if you can hear

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them popping.

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They're definitely fizzing on my
tongue. It's pretty cool. So how

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does this actually work? Well,
Pop Rocks are made from the same

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thing as hard candy: sugar, corn
syrup, water and flavoring all

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heated up, so the candy all
melts. But popping candy is then

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infused with carbon dioxide,
which is trapped in the cooling

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candy in lots of little bubbles.
In fact, if you look closely,

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you can probably even see the
bubbles, though you might need a

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magnifying glass. When you put
the candy in your mouth, the

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sugar dissolves and the carbon
dioxide bubbles pop and the gas

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is released. Don't worry, it's
perfectly safe... and pretty

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cool.

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Jordi: My name is Jordi. I'm
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I'm six years and my question
is, why can't we eat candy all

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day?

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Jane: I like the way you asked
this question, Jordi, why can't

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we eat candy all day? Most of
the experts in human nutrition,

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that's the study of food and the
nutrients in food, agree that

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occasional candy is fine if
you're otherwise feeding your

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body all of the other things it
needs to function. But if you're

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filling up on a lot of candy,
your body isn't getting all the

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stuff it needs, and too much
sugar in your body isn't great.

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A few years ago, we talked with
a nutritionist named Wesley

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Delbridge about why eating too
much sugar isn't such a good

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idea. Here's what he told us.

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Wesley Delbridge: It's because,
if you're only eating sugar,

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like let's let's call sugar
sweetened beverages like soda or

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candy, all it has is sugar, and
so when you eat that, your body

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absorbs it very quickly, and
your blood sugar jumps up, and

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you get this shot of energy, and
you feel good, and maybe you're

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a little hyper, but then the
body gets rid of that energy

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very quickly. And then when we
get what we call low blood

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sugar, and that's where you feel
really tired and really

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sluggish, and you don't want to
do anything, and you can't

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concentrate. And so even though
you're getting that energy,

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there's nothing else with it.
And so your body gets it,

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absorbs it, feel good, and then
all of a sudden you feel really

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bad. And so that's why we want
to have a healthy, balanced diet

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with, you know, those "sometimes
foods," but if you only eat high

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sugar items, you're not going to
feel good at all. You're not

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going to get the nutrients that
you need. You're not going to be

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able to concentrate in school.
You're not going to be able to

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do well in sports or play on the
playground. You're not going to

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feel good even though the things
that you're eating taste good.

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Nora: My name is Nora, and I'm
five, and I live in Grand

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Rapids, Michigan, and my
question is, why is candy be bad

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for your teeth?

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Jane: Yeah, sugar isn't great
for your teeth, either. Certain

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bacteria love sugar, and they
create something called acid in

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your mouth when you eat it. Acid
makes holes or cavities on the

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enamel, the outer coating on
your teeth. That's why it's

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important to brush those germs
away after you have a treat.

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Okay, that's it for this
episode. Thanks so much to Craig

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Montgomery at Sticky and Steve
Andrianos and Julia Jackson at

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Hercules Candies. As always, if
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