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JACK: [MUSIC] Psst.

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Hey you, I got a story for you but it’s a secret one.

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It’s about a mission, a plan that’s so confidential that nobody is allowed to know

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about it.

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The secrecy of the plan is even more important than the safety of executing the plan itself.

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Are you ready for it?

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What would you do if you had a few million dollars and were convinced that inter-continental

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missiles were soon going to be hurdling towards your city?

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You could pack up and run but these might be nuclear warheads.

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Running might not help.

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It’s best to shelter in place but your house is no match for missiles.

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You need to go underground into a bunker, a bomb shelter.

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You search online and see some bomb shelters you can buy.

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They’re not too crazy expensive.

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You can afford it; you’re a millionaire.

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But remember, secrecy first.

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If you buy a bomb shelter and deliver it to your house, everyone will know your place

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is the place to go to during an attack.

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Yeah, that won’t work.

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There’s gotta be a better solution to this, one where nobody would ever know about, but

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also one that when you put safety second, you risk human life.

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JACK (INTRO): [INTRO MUSIC] These are true stories from the dark side of the internet.

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I’m Jack Rhysider.

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This is Darknet Diaries.

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[INTRO MUSIC ENDS]

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JACK: A quick warning up front here, this episode is graphic, rated R. It has bad language

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and strong violent imagery.

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In fact, two listeners have wrote to me saying I need to put a stronger warning here so consider

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yourself warned.

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This one might be too much for some audiences.

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This story is about a young man named Daniel Beckwitt.

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He grew up in a house in Bethesda, Maryland.

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Actually, it was 5212 Danbury Road and he was fascinated with electronics growing up

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and decided to go for an electrical engineering degree from University of Illinois.

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He got a place to stay right on campus and was studying for his undergraduate degree.

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This was around 2011.

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He was fascinated with tech at a young age and as a teenager he loved to play with phone

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phreaking.

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This is basically hacking phones.

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But while at university he learned about a magical internet money called Bitcoin.

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[MUSIC] Back in 2011, Bitcoin was practically brand-new.

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It had only been around for a year or two but still at that time, you could buy it and

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sell it and mine it.

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Daniel started mining Bitcoin.

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This is where you get some graphics cards together and have them run computations and

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calculations to keep the Bitcoin network up.

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In exchange for doing this you get to keep some Bitcoin for helping.

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Daniel had an interesting way of seeing the world.

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He was a little fearful of the government and because the government regulated money,

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he liked the idea of a decentralized currency.

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He believed this was the money of the future so he got more and more into Bitcoins.

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Once he mined enough of it, he started trading it like stocks to try to get more; selling

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high, buying low.

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You know what?

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He got pretty good at this.

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By the summer of 2011 he felt confident enough about his knowledge of Bitcoin to travel to

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Las Vegas, Nevada and give a talk about Bitcoin at Defcon, the largest hacking conference

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in the world.

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DANIEL: First I’d just like to thank everyone for coming out and making this great [00:05:00]

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Defcon.

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This has been my first Defcon and I’ve really enjoyed it.

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Had a lot of great speakers here and it’s been fabulous attending and just hope speaking

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is half as fun.

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Anyway, my handle’s Skunkworks and today I’m gonna be talking to you about hacking

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global economy with GPUs or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Bitcoin.

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JACK: [BACKGROUND CONV.]

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In this talk he’s wearing a pair of sunglasses either to look cool or as a disguise.

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He’s got short hair and a black shirt.

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He didn’t call himself Daniel, of course.

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His speaker name was Skunkworks.

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Back at the time of that talk, the price of Bitcoin was fluctuating between $8 and $30.

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Jeez, if I only had the vision that Daniel had and bought up a ton of Bitcoin then, I’d

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be in a Lamborghini right now.

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Anyway, the talk was good.

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He explained Bitcoin pretty well and he did a good job for his first presentation at Defcon.

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At the same Defcon conference, an entirely different group of guys also gave a talk.

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SHANE: This is a story about how we lost an eye.

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Just to be clear, that’s me with a microscope.

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The sun’s in the air and I’m looking at a hard drive platter which happens to be very

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shiny.

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It’s really fucking bright.

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Anyway, that joke fell flat so we’re gonna keep on trucking.

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[LAUGHTER]

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JACK: [BACKGROUND CONV.]

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This one was presented by Shane Lawson, Bruce Potter, and Deviant Olaf, three veteran speakers

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of hacker conferences, so they packed the room.

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This talk had a premise; they wanted a way to destroy a hard drive remotely.

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They wanted to know the best way to do that.

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SHANE: What we’d really like to do is have a way to remotely destroy a drive, just make

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the drive go away.

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We wanted complete goddamn drive destruction, like a pile of slag.

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Our first thought was thermite.

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JACK: This guy’s also talked a little about Bitcoin too, but made fun of it.

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SHANE: Someone explained Bitcoins to me the other night in a bar and I thought it was

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a joke.

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JACK: Anyway, they created a little challenge with the goal of destroying a hard drive.

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SHANE: The rules of the game that we were trying to do up in Anchorage is destroying

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a drive in the following fashion; one, you have a 1U server.

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You have 1U above and below to install whatever the hell you want in the rack.

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When you fire the hard drive, you have sixty seconds to destroy it.

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You must not set off fire suppression, smoke sensors, seismic sensors ‘cause we’re

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near banks, must not harm other systems in the rack, and you must not harm the humans

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that happen to be nearby when you’re lighting off your thermite or magnesium or something

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like that.

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JACK: [BACKGROUND CONV.] Sure, they could destroy a hard drive by using some kind of

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wiper virus on it or just deleting everything, or encrypting it.

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But there was something more fun about taking on the challenge of physically destroying

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a hard drive remotely.

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Because however it gets destroyed, it’s probably going to be fun to watch.

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It’s gotta be a spectacle.

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Their goal was to take a computer, mount it in a server rack, and somehow physically destroy

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the hard drive remotely.

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Okay, but this isn’t so easy.

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Deviant Olaf, one of the speakers at this presentation, went over a few ways to blow

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up a hard drive using gun powder and thermite.

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But he explained all kinds of limitations this would bring, one being you need a big

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blast to trigger some of these explosives and thermite is hard to work with because

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it just melts through everything and can potentially cause explosions.

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DEVIANT: What have we learned today, kids?

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We have learned that it’s possible to do incendiary things, or boomiary things to your

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drives.

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You do not want the emergency crews to come out.

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We do not want you going home and burning shit down.

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We do not want you sent to a frickin’ ER.

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We do not want you making new friends.

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[LAUGHTER] At least not if you’re gonna blame us for it.

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If you really think this is up your fucking alley, there are plenty of resources online

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if you want to be stupid.

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JACK: [BACKGROUND CONV.]

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They tried burning the drives, grinding the drives, used chemicals to somehow melt the

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drives or other incendiary attempts but most of these tests were unsuccessful.

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Hard drives are hard and they didn’t want any leftover data on the drive because even

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if a few bytes of data were left over, that could be the password to something important

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like your Bitcoin wallet.

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But they did find that fire would actually burn the hard drives fairly effectively.

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SHANE: The idea that we came up with was affixing a glow plug for a motorbike to the end of

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a propane torch and then use a servo to open said propane torch and then lighting the propane

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torch remotely with an Arduino and an Ethernet connection.

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DEVIANT: By god, the most difficult way ever to light a propane torch.

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SHANE: YEAH. [LAUGHTER]

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JACK: But they just couldn’t figure out how to do this.

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SHANE: Here’s the kicker; we failed.

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We failed in a big gnarly, nasty way.

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You sat through forty-five minutes of fucking failure.

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Here’s the deal though.

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The first person that makes a device that meets the challenge requirements that we have

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and does not harm themselves or sue us will get free access to Shmoocon 2012.

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JACK: [MUSIC] Daniel Beckwitt, the guy who gave the talk on Bitcoin, was in the audience

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at this talk, watching it and feeling inspired by the challenge.

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He thought for sure he could destroy a [00:10:00] hard drive better than these guys did because

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he was fascinated with chemistry and explosives and electronics and he had some ideas on how

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to do this.

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On top of that he wanted to win the prize that was free Shmoocon tickets.

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Which by the way, Shmoocon is a hacker conference in Washington, DC not too far from where he

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grew up.

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He went back home and tried a few different things.

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First, he tried lye and to try to do a chemical burn on the hard drives.

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This didn’t quite work.

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Then he tried to use high-voltage electrical shock on it.

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He used pieces from a microwave to do this.

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Remember, he was an electrical engineering student so he knew his way around this kind

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of stuff.

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This would destroy the platters of the hard drive but when it was in the hard drive case

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itself, it didn’t destroy it the way he wanted.

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He decided to see what he could do with thermite.

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Thermite’s like a metal powder and if you apply enough heat to it, you can ignite it

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and it’ll burn so hot that it’ll melt certain metals.

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It burns at like, 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit or more.

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It’s sometimes used to weld train tracks together because it can heat up a metal to

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become molten and then fit right in between the cracks of the tracks.

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Then when it cools, it bonds it together.

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Since a hard drive is made of metal, the theory is that thermite would simply melt the metal

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and then leave just a puddle behind of where the hard drive was.

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Daniel found an article on Hackaday of someone doing this and decided to try to follow the

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instructions.

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Safety first, though.

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Daniel purchased a full fire proximity suit from eBay and a pair of gloves that were rated

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to withstand 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

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For about 170 bucks he had all the PPE or Personal Protective Equipment required to

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do something like this.

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He also pulled out his chemistry book from freshman year and started to review what exothermic

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reactions are and that kind of stuff.

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Then he went online and purchased some thermite.

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But when the thermite arrived, so did company.

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The campus police somehow got word that this student was purchasing thermite and paid Daniel

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a visit.

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Daniel showed the police the Shmoocon challenge and that he was only trying to win the challenge.

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The police saw that the challenge was real and since owning thermite wasn’t actually

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illegal, the police let him carry on.

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He wanted to be safe with this experiment and was concerned about fire and explosions

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and things getting out of hand.

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He decided to dig a pit in his back yard to do his experiments in.

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This was a four-foot-deep pit about two feet wide.

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He also kept multiple fire extinguishers nearby.

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With everything ready he placed the hard drive in the dug-out pit, added the thermite on

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top of it, put on his PPE, and he was all ready.

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Three, two, one.

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Ignition.

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[MUSIC] Sparks shot everywhere.

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Flames leapt up.

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The iron in the thermite turned molten and grew so hot that it melted right through the

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hard drive underneath it.

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It was amazing to watch and absolutely obliterated the hard drive.

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This was really cool and Daniel wanted to improve this.

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He kept trying it over and over to make it more effective.

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After a few attempts he found that the perfect amount of thermite to destroy a hard drive

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was one kilogram’s worth.

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Great.

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That’s working very effectively but it didn’t quite work within the bounds of the challenge

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which was to not set off smoke alarms or destroy anything else in the rack.

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The thermite reaction produced a lot of smoke so he began getting deeper into chemistry

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and exothermic reactions to try to figure out how to burn something as hot as thermite

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but keeping it contained.

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He found another version of thermite which was made up of a chemical compound calcium

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sulfate.

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This burned just as hot as thermite but with less smoke.

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He purchased some of it and took it to his test pit and tried to burn a hard drive.

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But this wasn’t as effective since it didn’t create enough slag as the metal-based thermite

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and it’s the slag that was turning the hard drive into molten metal.

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He started making his own thermite mixtures to try to find something that would be effective.

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He added various oxidizers and fuels.

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He would add little bits to see if it helped at melting the hard drive and if so, he would

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add a little bit more of that.

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He actually did around three hundred different tests to find a perfect solution.

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What he found was a mixture of 37% thermite, 37% calcium sulfate thermite, and 25% potassium

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nitrate.

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This mixture would be the best he could find that had an easy way to ignite, it burned

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hot enough, it created enough slag, and didn’t cause a lot of smoke.

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Excellent.

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But the challenge is still to be able to set this off in a data center without burning

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down the whole data center.

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He did some experiments with fire-rated drywall.

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He built a box of this drywall that would fit in a server rack and on the box, he added

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a HEPA filter which filtered out the smoke.

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After a few attempts he got it work.

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Within this small box he was able to set off a thermite reaction and burn a hard drive

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without producing any smoke or setting anything else on fire in the rack.

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This satisfied all the requirements of the challenge so Daniel presented his research

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to the three guys who laid down this challenge.

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Sure enough, he won the prize; free tickets to Shmoocon.

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Yes! Daniel felt good.

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On top of that, he got to present [00:15:00] his entire experimentation process on how

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he did it at Shmoocon 2012.

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DANIEL: My pseudo name is Skunkworks and today I’m going to be talking to you about hard

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drive anti-forensics.

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My talk’s entitled And That’s How I Didn’t Lose an Eye: Emergency Data Destruction.

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First, a little bit about me; I’m an undergrad in electrical engineering at a major US research

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university.

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I do a lot of, well, an insane amount of my own R and D outside of school in my basement

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in suburban Maryland.

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I’m experienced in basically everything from non-destructive entry to Kuda VoIPed

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Tesla coils.

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I’m just a tinkerer.

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I love building stuff.

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That’s why I took on the Shmoo group’s hard drive Data Destruction Challenge and

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succeeded in it.

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I’m cutting class to speak at Shmoocon, actually.

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I had to cut Friday double-E class to make the flight out.

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JACK: Thermite is exciting and Daniel was excited to give this talk and get recognized

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for his R and D. Again, he wore the same outfit on stage; dark sunglasses, short hair, black

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shirt.

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After the conference he went back to school, all the way to University of Illinois.

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He took more classes there and was studying hard.

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He was twenty years old back in 2012.

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I don’t know why but he allegedly caused destruction to school’s property.

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He was taking a course, ECE329 which stood for Electrical and Computer Engineering.

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He put a key-logger on the professor’s computer.

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This is a little physical device that you put in between the keyboard and the computer

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and it records every keystroke that computer makes.

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It saves them in a file and Daniel could then retrieve the device later.

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This gave Daniel access to the professor’s e-mail.

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Sifting through the e-mails, he found the final exam as an attachment.

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Daniel tried to jump on this opportunity to make some cash.

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Using the professor’s e-mail, he sent an e-mail to all the students in the class saying

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quote, “ECE329 exam for sale.

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Sale ends at 6 p.m. tonight and you will be refunded if some white knight snitches to

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the damn professors.

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But we can all cooperate, am I right?”

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End quote.

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Signed the ECE Hacker.

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Next, for some bizarre reason that I still don’t understand, Daniel allegedly put superglue

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and metal chips into the locks of the science lab and in the i-card readers, rendering them

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completely unusable.

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Maybe he was trying to buy some time or keep someone out of there, or maybe make it so

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the locks wouldn’t shut the door anymore so he could go in whenever he wanted.

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I don’t know.

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At this point the professor noticed these e-mails that were sent from his account, but

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he didn’t write them.

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He contacted the campus police.

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[MUSIC] The police investigated and found several posts on Reddit by someone calling

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themselves ECE Hacker.

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As they investigated, they found three more computers in the lab that had key-loggers

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on them.

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The ECE Hacker post led them to a blog of a person called Skunkworks.

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The blog listed hacking into schools as one of his hobbies and had a picture of Daniel

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on it.

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From here the police were able to identify Daniel and issue a search warrant for his

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apartment.

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The search revealed many more key-logging devices and they found superglue and metal

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bits.

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Daniel was arrested January 2013.

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He was charged with criminal damage to government-supported property, computer fraud, and forgery.

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Seven different charges in all.

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For a twenty-one-year-old as he was at the time, these were some pretty serious and scary

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consequences.

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He accepted a plea deal and agreeing to plead guilty to computer fraud to have the other

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charges dropped.

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This got him a conviction of two year’s probation so he avoided a prison sentence

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this time.

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In 2013, fresh from his computer fraud conviction in Illinois and now on probation, Daniel moved

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back to Bethesda in Maryland and to the house where he grew up at 5212 Danbury Road.

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Still owned by his father, Daniel lived there alone and it seemed like he had his head down

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and out of any hacking activity while serving his probation period.

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Back in 2013, Bitcoin was hovering at around $100.

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It was still a new and weird idea.

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Only crazy people were buying it then.

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Who would ever pay $100 for some fake internet money?

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[MUSIC] Well, Daniel would and he was still heavy into Bitcoin; mining it, and buying

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it, and selling it, and trading it, and making a profit.

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When it was on the rise, he held it and when it was going down, he sold it.

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For those who remember, 2013 was actually a stellar year for Bitcoin.

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Between August and December of that year, Bitcoin rose from $100 to $1,000, gaining

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in value of ten times in just four months.

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Anyone who was holding during those four months made out big-time.

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Daniel was holding but then Bitcoin crashed again, but Daniel would focus on this a lot

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so when it went down, he pulled out and then he would buy when it started to come up again.

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Over the next two years he became a pretty skilled Bitcoin day-trader.

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He amassed himself a Bitcoin collection equal to one million dollars.

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Daniel, at just twenty-five years old, was a Bitcoin millionaire.

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Around this time Daniel changed his [00:20:00] hacker name from Skunkworks to 3 Alarm Lamp

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Scooter which is an obscure reference from a Neal Stephenson novel.

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But he clearly didn’t forget and move on from the Shmoocon Data Destruction Contest.

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In 2016 he presented his second talk at Shmoocon convention in Washington, DC, this time as

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3 Alarm Lamp Scooter.

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Again, not using his real name.

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When he came on stage, he wasn’t wearing the usual sunglasses and black shirt.

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He came onstage wearing his full fire proximity suit, including a face visor, a hood, gloves,

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and it was all shimmering and quite a spectacle.

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His talk was titled This Message Will Self-Destruct in 10 Seconds.

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He discussed once again effective ways of destroying hard drives.

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DANIEL: Okay, so why are you all intently staring at some weird dude in a fire proximity

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suit out to deliver a talk entitled This Message Will Self-Destruct in 10 Seconds: Avoiding

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Bilateral Nucleation?

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Well, the short answer is the Shmoo works in mysterious ways.

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JACK: His talks is full of humor and chemistry but it’s a little dry and in the weeds.

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Daniel sounds really smart but is losing the audience.

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Here, see if you can follow him.

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DANIEL: Anyways, reactions proceeding faster in the fuel burning with only atmospheric

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oxygen required or only their own supply of an oxidizer, and the reaction energies maximized

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for a given amount of reactants when the fuel to oxidize a ratio is totally cumetric and

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there isn’t a limiting reactant.

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Well, how are we going to take non-volatile memory and turn it quite literally into volatile

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memory?

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Everything becomes volatile if you heat it up enough.

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JACK: The audience doesn’t appear too taken with Daniel but they do liven up when he does

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give some demonstrations and videos near the end.

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But what’s interesting about these demonstrations, other than blowing up hard drives with homemade

00:20:18.890 --> 00:20:22.519
thermite, is where these controlled fires were filmed.

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This wasn’t the same two-foot-wide pit in his backyard from a few years earlier.

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This appears to be filmed in a tunnel of some kind.

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The walls were about five or six feet high and there was dirt all around.

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He’s obviously been very busy creating more exothermic reactions and has a new location

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where he’s doing this.

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During this time, Daniel started becoming more concerned about the future; with the

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new president in office and the rising political climate, he was beginning to think that some

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kind of catastrophic attack against the US might be inevitable.

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Maybe North Korea or China was going to attack with nuclear weapons.

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Maybe a terrorist attack would unleash an EMP.

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For some reason, Daniel could not get these thoughts out of his mind and his fear and

00:21:05.340 --> 00:21:08.610
paranoia grew along with his Bitcoin fortune.

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DANIEL: Anyways, I think we’re about done on time now so I’ll turn it over to the

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EFF so that they can let you know about the latest legislative groupings by our misguided

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government toward the Orwellian tyranny of a global panopticon powered by signals intelligence.

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Alright?

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3 Alarm Lamp Scooter out.

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[APPLAUSE]

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JACK: Someone close to him told me that Daniel had a lot of knowledge about pharmaceuticals.

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If you say a drug, he could tell you what company makes that drug or what chemical compound

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was in it.

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I don’t know what this means but I found it interesting that he has these deep wells

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of information.

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He came back to Defcon in August 2016 to give another talk.

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Again, he used 3 Alarm Lamp Scooter as his name and showed up on stage wearing the hood

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of his fire proximity suit, completely obscuring how he looks.

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You can’t recognize him at all.

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DANIEL: I’m 3 Alarm Lamp Scooter and today I’m giving a talk on DIY nuke-proofing.

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JACK: Okay.

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He’s about to give a talk on how to create a DIY nuclear shelter.

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DANIEL: There’s more fear, uncertainty, and doubt surrounding nuclear weapons than

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perhaps any other technology out there, especially their hypothetical capabilities in electronic

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warfare.

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To really grasp the assault of nuclear weapons and the threat landscape that has been there

00:22:27.270 --> 00:22:32.140
in the past, we have to go back to a quick remedial physic lesson.

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We’ve got two different isotopes of uranium that are important to all this.

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One of them is Uranium 235.

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The other is Uranium 238.

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They differ by three neutrons and that is why they have differing mass.

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The real short version of this – I had a lot more prepared, but you can use what’s

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called the Kinetic Isotope Effect to separate the lighter from the heavier uranium.

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The lighter uranium, 235, actually is what’s called fissile material.

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If you hit it with a neutron it can sustain a nuclear reaction if it’s enriched above

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around 5%, usually.

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JACK: What the heck is he talking about?

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I’ve taken physics classes and chemistry classes and this is way over my head.

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Daniel has apparently been very busy studying nuclear weapons and its capabilities.

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He’s now showing us pictures of different bombs.

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DANIEL: The device on the right there is called Fat Man.

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That was a plutonium implosion-style device.

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Again, you need a nuclear reactor to build that; pretty difficult to come up with the

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plutonium.

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JACK: He then starts talking about what countries have nukes and giving us a full history lesson

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on nuclear weapons.

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DANIEL: There was the UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, etc.

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[00:25:00] I kind of call them all the Nuclear Also Rans.

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Most of them didn’t do anything too necessarily innovative.

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JACK: He even goes on to talk about what scientists made these weapons.

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The talk goes on and on.

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He starts talking about EMP, and lasers, and other weapons that countries have.

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DANIEL: As much as I hate to agree with Donald Trump on the issue of nuclear arms control,

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I think the totality of the evidence may point to being up shit creek, for lack of a better

00:24:01.270 --> 00:24:02.270
term.

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JACK: It’s hard to hear but he just said that we’re up shit creek regarding countries

00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:05.789
having WMDs.

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Finally, towards the end of his talk, he starts telling us about ways to protect yourself.

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DANIEL: Believe it or not, something like a trash can can give you forty or fifty decibels

00:24:13.651 --> 00:24:16.139
of shielding if you tape it up properly so it doesn’t act as a slot antenna.

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High-altitude electromagnetic pulse projection – oh, we got time?

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MOD: Alright, how are we doing?

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We’re done.

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DANIEL: Okay, shoot.

00:24:22.769 --> 00:24:24.769
MOD: Okay. Thank you.

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DANIEL: Okay.

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Thanks a lot. [APPLAUSE]

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JACK: Wait, what?

00:24:28.769 --> 00:24:31.330
The moderator at Defcon just came onstage and cut him off, saying his time was over.

00:24:31.330 --> 00:24:35.269
He spent this whole talk explaining about the dangers of nuclear weapons but just when

00:24:35.269 --> 00:24:38.919
he was about to tell us how to build a bunker, they took him offstage.

00:24:38.919 --> 00:24:43.529
They took him offstage specifically because he was out of time but his slide did say The

00:24:43.529 --> 00:24:49.080
Only Winning Move is to Dig Deeper.

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[MUSIC] Turns out, Daniel had been very busy working on a new project.

00:25:02.649 --> 00:25:07.559
He obviously did a lot of research to prepare for this presentation.

00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.210
He studied a lot about nuclear weapons and EMPs.

00:25:10.210 --> 00:25:16.220
He was very knowledgeable about this but somewhere in the process of all this he started figuring

00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:18.460
out ways to protect against it.

00:25:18.460 --> 00:25:25.159
He started reading things like the Army Technical Manual 5-858-6 which has a full section on

00:25:25.159 --> 00:25:28.340
underground nuclear tunnel experiments.

00:25:28.340 --> 00:25:32.350
He went on to study what the different layers of soil are and what different soil types

00:25:32.350 --> 00:25:35.100
there are and he studied more about excavation.

00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:38.279
Specifically, how to make tunnels and how to fortify their walls.

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.519
He found research papers from the University of Washington that went over various kinds

00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.250
of earth-retaining structures.

00:25:44.250 --> 00:25:48.470
He examined the field manuals on how to dig through certain kinds of soils and he started

00:25:48.470 --> 00:25:52.000
learning about the difference between laterite, humus, and sub-soils.

00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:57.179
He looked up where the water table was and how deep the bedrock was where he was living.

00:25:57.179 --> 00:26:02.110
When Daniel combined his fear of major attacks happening to his city and his knowledge of

00:26:02.110 --> 00:26:04.870
digging, he came up with a new plan.

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While living alone at his father’s house in 5212 Danbury Road in Bethesda, Maryland,

00:26:10.389 --> 00:26:15.150
he was gonna turn his house into a nuclear bunker.

00:26:15.150 --> 00:26:21.000
Either Daniel or his father or probably both of them were collectors.

00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.710
When they acquired pretty much anything, they kept it; buckets, chairs, toys, pots, pans,

00:26:25.710 --> 00:26:30.050
clothes, building materials, tools, light fixtures, paintings, hoses, computers, trash,

00:26:30.050 --> 00:26:31.050
you name it.

00:26:31.050 --> 00:26:33.730
This was all stuff that you would find at Daniel’s house.

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Upstairs in the house, downstairs in the house, in the basement, piles of this stuff were

00:26:37.679 --> 00:26:41.299
everywhere; sometimes five feet high, sometimes all the way up to the ceiling.

00:26:41.299 --> 00:26:43.770
A lot of it was just trash, too.

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If you saw the photos of his house you might even say a hoarder lives there.

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He began collecting even more stuff to prepare for a disaster, like food and survival gear.

00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:56.399
He loaded all this into his basement but this wasn’t enough.

00:26:56.399 --> 00:27:00.509
He wanted something that could withstand a blast and protect him in the event of a major

00:27:00.509 --> 00:27:03.220
nuclear incident or an EMP blast.

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To make a bomb shelter he decided he needed to go underground and not just in his basement.

00:27:08.100 --> 00:27:12.210
I don’t know for sure what happened but I did look at a lot of pictures and I can

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take a pretty good guess at what I think happened down in his basement.

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I think to start, he went to a far corner of his basement and brought a jackhammer or

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some sort of concrete saw or something with him and began chinking out a hole in the concrete

00:27:25.330 --> 00:27:26.730
foundation.

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It looks like he knocked out about a three-foot by three-foot square into the basement floor.

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Under the concrete floor of the basement was dirt so he started digging it up, filling

00:27:36.889 --> 00:27:41.549
bucket after bucket with dirt and bringing it outside, dumping it out, and then going

00:27:41.549 --> 00:27:43.389
in and digging up more.

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This had to be a very slow and painstaking process that would tire him out.

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[MUSIC] By October of 2016 Daniel was most definitely in full-swing of building this

00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:54.440
secret tunnel.

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To Daniel this needed to be extremely secret.

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Nobody would be allowed to know what was going on here, not any neighbors or friends.

00:28:04.230 --> 00:28:09.090
He would take extra precautions to make sure no one was aware of his operation, probably

00:28:09.090 --> 00:28:12.940
doing things like dumping buckets of dirt out at night and buying tools with cash and

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:15.169
unloading equipment in the dark.

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As Daniel dug up the tunnel, it started to go deeper and deeper underground.

00:28:19.139 --> 00:28:23.259
At first a light in the basement was all he needed to see what he was doing but as the

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:26.640
hole got deeper, he needed to shine the light further down there.

00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:31.269
He had to get an extension cord and lower a light down into the hole.

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But as the hole grew deeper, the air down there got worse.

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But because digging is one thing; yeah, you get [00:30:00] dusty, but I bet sometimes

00:28:38.120 --> 00:28:42.360
he’d hit a solid rock and I’ve seen what happens when you try to break through rock.

00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:47.509
There’s a lot of dust so Daniel rigged up some ventilation ducts, perhaps one to push

00:28:47.509 --> 00:28:52.140
fresh air down in there and one maybe to suck that dusty air out.

00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:57.419
Eventually he dug the hole deep enough, around fifteen feet down, and two or three feet wide,

00:28:57.419 --> 00:29:00.340
just enough to fit a ladder and himself to get down in there.

00:29:00.340 --> 00:29:04.570
But this would just be the entry though; from here he made a turn.

00:29:04.570 --> 00:29:08.840
Instead of going down he started digging in another direction, probably still filling

00:29:08.840 --> 00:29:13.399
bucket after bucket, hoisting them up into the basement with ropes and pulleys and then

00:29:13.399 --> 00:29:17.220
probably emptying it out in the yard and then coming back down for more.

00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:21.720
This process was slow and painstaking but he was making progress.

00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.340
Before long he had two branches to the tunnel down there, and one was big enough to make

00:29:26.340 --> 00:29:27.820
into a livable space.

00:29:27.820 --> 00:29:32.259
He dragged a bedroll down there and brought some food and water and tested to see if he

00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:33.789
could live down there.

00:29:33.789 --> 00:29:38.259
He had clean air, extension cords bringing him electricity, and food and water down there.

00:29:38.259 --> 00:29:41.100
It was rough at first so Daniel improved it.

00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:43.950
He rigged it up with WiFi and brought a TV down there.

00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:47.600
He even added a door to one arm of the tunnel for privacy.

00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:51.019
He brought some extra blankets to be warm and eventually it became a comfortable enough

00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:55.230
living space, something that would suit him in case there was a major attack.

00:29:55.230 --> 00:29:57.280
He was becoming happy with it.

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It was a good start and the vision was starting to take shape but Daniel wanted something

00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:02.990
bigger.

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[MUSIC] I imagine this process was agonizingly slow.

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If he had help digging it would go a lot faster so he decided to hire someone to help him

00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:18.399
but he was very fearful that whoever he hired would then know the location of this bomb

00:30:18.399 --> 00:30:21.650
shelter and in a disaster, he didn’t want them coming over.

00:30:21.650 --> 00:30:26.490
But Daniel really didn’t want anyone to know about this so he hired a guy named Douglas

00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:30.769
to come help do some digging and somehow blindfolded him so he wouldn’t know where the tunnels

00:30:30.769 --> 00:30:31.769
were.

00:30:31.769 --> 00:30:35.919
Douglas was a twenty-year old guy and had an old dog and agreed to help dig the tunnels

00:30:35.919 --> 00:30:37.980
if he could bring his dog with.

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In the fall of 2016, Douglas and his dog worked down in the tunnels, digging out more space

00:30:44.350 --> 00:30:47.740
and expanding their reach for about six months.

00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:53.500
Douglas liked Daniel and thought he was clever and smart, but by April 2017 Douglas had enough.

00:30:53.500 --> 00:30:58.039
He was bored of the work and was getting concerned for the health of his elderly dog.

00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:02.090
He parted from Daniel and the tunnels on friendly terms.

00:31:02.090 --> 00:31:05.799
This left Daniel with a problem; he needed a new tunnel digger.

00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.639
He went online and found a helper willing to dig tunnels.

00:31:08.639 --> 00:31:12.000
A twenty-year old man named Askia Khafra.

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[MUSIC] Askia had dreams.

00:31:14.690 --> 00:31:19.129
He had a great idea to start an online business and needed some cash to get it going.

00:31:19.129 --> 00:31:24.529
Daniel agreed to invest $5,000 into his online business if he would help dig the tunnels.

00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:28.299
This was on top of some kind of daily pay but there was a catch.

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:32.309
Because Daniel was so paranoid about anyone knowing about the underground bunker, he went

00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:35.210
to great lengths to keep the location secret from Askia.

00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:39.809
First of all, Askia only lived four miles away from Daniel’s house where the tunnels

00:31:39.809 --> 00:31:42.879
were being dug but Daniel wouldn’t just give him the address.

00:31:42.879 --> 00:31:46.029
Instead he’d drive him over blindfolded.

00:31:46.029 --> 00:31:49.980
But Daniel knew that if he blindfolded someone and just drove them four miles that person

00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:54.909
would know the tunnels are nearby and might even be able to sense the exact location based

00:31:54.909 --> 00:31:56.549
on the turns.

00:31:56.549 --> 00:31:58.240
Daniel had a trick.

00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:02.769
Daniel would pick Askia up from his home four miles away and drive him out to Manassas in

00:32:02.769 --> 00:32:04.679
Virginia, thirty-nine miles away.

00:32:04.679 --> 00:32:09.139
Once there Daniel would then give Askia a pair of blacked-out goggles which he was to

00:32:09.139 --> 00:32:11.059
put on for the rest of the journey.

00:32:11.059 --> 00:32:15.250
With Askia wearing these he couldn’t see anything or where they were driving and Daniel

00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:19.909
would then drive Askia almost right back to where they started at his house in Bethesda.

00:32:19.909 --> 00:32:25.240
He would then take Askia out of the car, lead him into the house, and down into the basement.

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.799
Only then he could take the goggles off.

00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.880
By this point the tunnels were even more elaborate.

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.750
First, they’d go down and below Daniel’s house about twenty feet and then they’d

00:32:33.750 --> 00:32:35.529
stretch out in different directions like arms.

00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:40.389
There were a few different corridors, and passageways, and rooms, basically.

00:32:40.389 --> 00:32:45.350
Inside the tunnels was lighting, heating, air circulation, and there was a couple dedicated

00:32:45.350 --> 00:32:52.749
spaces for a fridge, a bed, a TV, a microwave, a computer, video game consoles, WiFi systems.

00:32:52.749 --> 00:32:56.690
Some areas were even locked and kept secret and there were different levels that had floors

00:32:56.690 --> 00:32:58.999
that could be raised or dropped down.

00:32:58.999 --> 00:33:02.669
The tunnels were so long at this point, to get proper lighting and electrical tools down

00:33:02.669 --> 00:33:06.669
in there, they had to daisy-chain some extension cords to make them reach.

00:33:06.669 --> 00:33:11.019
With all the refrigerators and TVs down there, this put a big load on the cables.

00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:14.649
He sent Askia down there and showed him the ropes, literally.

00:33:14.649 --> 00:33:19.629
You had to practically rappel down into the tunnel to get to know how the operation worked.

00:33:19.629 --> 00:33:22.899
Dirt and rocks were likely filled up in buckets and then Daniel would empty those and bring

00:33:22.899 --> 00:33:23.899
them back.

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Oh, and one more thing; Daniel took even more steps to hide the location from Askia.

00:33:28.750 --> 00:33:32.649
Askia had a phone but it didn’t work so well underground like that so Daniel provided

00:33:32.649 --> 00:33:38.340
WiFi but he set the WiFi up with a VPN which made [00:35:00] Askia believe he was in Virginia.

00:33:38.340 --> 00:33:41.299
With the hours of driving to get there, this seemed logical.

00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:43.970
Askia thought he was in Virginia.

00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:47.419
Askia got to work digging and he thought it was okay work.

00:33:47.419 --> 00:33:51.049
Every now and then he’d snap a photo and post it to Facebook or send it to his girlfriend

00:33:51.049 --> 00:33:52.049
of him down there.

00:33:52.049 --> 00:33:54.850
In these photos he’s wearing full protective equipment.

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[MUSIC] He’s got a helmet on, a respirator to keep the dust out, eye protection, hearing

00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:00.799
protection, and gloves.

00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.669
I think he went down there and worked for a few days at a time.

00:34:04.669 --> 00:34:09.220
I think he slept down there, ate down there, watched TV down there, played video games,

00:34:09.220 --> 00:34:14.800
and when he had to go to the bathroom there was a bucket system for that because he was

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:18.440
absolutely not allowed to come upstairs to the regular bathroom.

00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.810
Daniel’s paranoia was just too much for that.

00:34:21.810 --> 00:34:26.460
After a few days of digging, Daniel would put the blacked-out goggles back on and drive

00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:27.980
him back home.

00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:32.160
Askia’s parents and girlfriend knew what he was doing for Daniel but were not that

00:34:32.160 --> 00:34:33.390
keen on it.

00:34:33.390 --> 00:34:37.390
Askia’s parents tried to persuade him to stop seeing Daniel and stop working in the

00:34:37.390 --> 00:34:38.390
tunnels.

00:34:38.390 --> 00:34:41.950
They didn’t like the strange routine that Daniel kept carrying out with Askia to get

00:34:41.950 --> 00:34:44.760
him there and that he had to live down there.

00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.860
Askia described the tunnels to his girlfriend as one hundred feet long and fifteen feet

00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:50.860
deep.

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:55.230
He said there was areas that were locked and he wasn’t allowed to go in but Askia kept

00:34:55.230 --> 00:34:57.140
going back to help Daniel dig.

00:34:57.140 --> 00:35:02.250
The earth that far deep was in some places very rocky, if not solid rock, and this likely

00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:04.450
meant that the tunnel was fairly secure.

00:35:04.450 --> 00:35:09.330
It was a huge pain in the neck to break the rock to dig so Askia didn’t think that the

00:35:09.330 --> 00:35:11.360
tunnel would probably collapse.

00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.260
Because Daniel provided good personal protection equipment and there was decent entertainment

00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:22.530
and food down there, it was good enough for the now twenty-one-year old Askia.

00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:28.730
On September 10th, 2017 at about 2:00 p.m. Askia was working in the tunnels while Daniel

00:35:28.730 --> 00:35:30.870
was upstairs in the house.

00:35:30.870 --> 00:35:36.330
Askia smelled smoke in the tunnels and sent Daniel a text message telling him about it.

00:35:36.330 --> 00:35:38.890
Daniel came downstairs into the basement and looked around.

00:35:38.890 --> 00:35:42.810
He saw that a circuit had tripped in the electrical box.

00:35:42.810 --> 00:35:46.590
This made the tunnels dark and Askia couldn’t see what he was doing down there.

00:35:46.590 --> 00:35:51.540
Daniel inspected the wiring and tried to find the source of the smoke but remember, Daniel’s

00:35:51.540 --> 00:35:54.250
house and basement is a bit cluttered you could say.

00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:57.890
Stuff was piled everywhere and it wasn’t easy to move things around and inspect the

00:35:57.890 --> 00:35:58.930
job site.

00:35:58.930 --> 00:36:03.120
It’s unclear and I’m not exactly sure but I think Daniel couldn’t locate the problem

00:36:03.120 --> 00:36:07.470
and just switched the circuit breaker back on and went upstairs.

00:36:07.470 --> 00:36:13.640
About two hours later, now 4:30 in the afternoon, Daniel smelled smoke again and went back down

00:36:13.640 --> 00:36:14.640
to look.

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This time a fire had erupted in the basement and the piles of stuff all over the basement

00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.890
and other things started catching fire.

00:36:22.890 --> 00:36:28.320
[MUSIC] Daniel tried to put the fire out but it already had grown too large to manage it.

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.480
He tried to get Askia out but it was too much.

00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.480
It was too hot.

00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:32.910
There was too much smoke.

00:36:32.910 --> 00:36:34.690
Daniel was choking on the smoke.

00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:36.110
He was coughing and gagging.

00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:37.490
His lungs were burning.

00:36:37.490 --> 00:36:40.770
He tried to get down low but this didn’t help much.

00:36:40.770 --> 00:36:42.450
Maybe he should just get out of there.

00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:44.160
He shouted for Askia.

00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:50.740
When the smoke just grew too much, Daniel ran out of there and called 911.

00:36:50.740 --> 00:36:55.630
I think at this time Askia was down in the tunnels washing up after a long day of work

00:36:55.630 --> 00:36:59.380
and so he had taken his clothes off and he was in the middle of putting new clothes back

00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:04.320
on when he heard Daniel shouting out that there’s a fire.

00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.990
[MUSIC] Askia ran to the tunnel entrance and looked up into the basement.

00:37:07.990 --> 00:37:11.110
There he could see the smoke and he could hear the fire.

00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:15.540
He didn’t want to be trapped in the tunnel with a fire going on so he climbed up the

00:37:15.540 --> 00:37:18.640
fifteen-foot-tall ladder and into the basement.

00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:21.850
Naked, he almost immediately started coughing.

00:37:21.850 --> 00:37:23.470
The smoke was thick.

00:37:23.470 --> 00:37:27.620
He had seen this basement before to get down in the tunnels but the smoke and fire and

00:37:27.620 --> 00:37:29.990
junk everywhere just disoriented him.

00:37:29.990 --> 00:37:35.110
He didn’t know exactly how to get out and now he’s in a smoke-filled room that’s

00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:36.390
on fire.

00:37:36.390 --> 00:37:41.420
It’s full of garbage and trash and old bicycles and clothes, and just a ton of junk.

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:43.400
There’s no windows in this place.

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.770
He tried to make his way out of the basement but he was lost and he had to jump through

00:37:47.770 --> 00:37:51.910
flames to make it to the other side of the room which would just scorch his body.

00:37:51.910 --> 00:37:54.310
It wasn’t easy to get around.

00:37:54.310 --> 00:37:57.020
He started to panic and the smoke grew thicker.

00:37:57.020 --> 00:37:59.670
It was dense, ugly smoke.

00:37:59.670 --> 00:38:01.070
Askia was coughing hard.

00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:04.980
The heat was intense; his lungs were burning.

00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:12.330
Askia kept looking for a way out through the maze of burning junk and trash in the basement.

00:38:12.330 --> 00:38:18.450
One of the neighbors was named Bruce Leshan and he happened to be a news reporter for

00:38:18.450 --> 00:38:22.400
WUSA9 and saw the smoke and ran over.

00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.470
He tells us his story.

00:38:23.470 --> 00:38:27.200
BRUCE: I was the first person on the scene of the fire.

00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:34.290
I tried to get into the burning house to rescue Khafra but it was just too dangerous and when

00:38:34.290 --> 00:38:37.310
I yelled in [00:40:00] ‘are you in there?

00:38:37.310 --> 00:38:38.670
Is anybody in there?’

00:38:38.670 --> 00:38:39.810
There was no response.

00:38:39.810 --> 00:38:44.110
JACK: When the fire department arrived, they found Daniel outside breathless and panicked.

00:38:44.110 --> 00:38:47.520
He was telling them there’s someone inside who I couldn’t get out.

00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:51.130
Daniel was suffering from smoke inhalation and some skin burns.

00:38:51.130 --> 00:38:55.340
The fire crews frantically made their way into the burning house, looking for Askia.

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:59.600
They went down into the basement and just feet from the exit, they found his naked body

00:38:59.600 --> 00:39:00.770
laying there.

00:39:00.770 --> 00:39:04.510
The fire fighters tried to help Askia but it was too late.

00:39:04.510 --> 00:39:10.810
The smoke and fire was all too much for him and he died just minutes before the fire fighters

00:39:10.810 --> 00:39:14.350
found him.

00:39:14.350 --> 00:39:23.750
[MUSIC] Days after the fire, the county came to the house and boarded it up and put a notice

00:39:23.750 --> 00:39:27.160
on the door that said This Building is Unsafe to Enter.

00:39:27.160 --> 00:39:30.380
The tunnels were believed to be two hundred feet long at this point so the neighbors were

00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:32.760
concerned that the tunnels were under their house.

00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.140
The city was concerned the tunnel was under the road.

00:39:35.140 --> 00:39:38.130
But it was too risky to go down there and map it out.

00:39:38.130 --> 00:39:45.180
I imagine Daniel felt terrible that this electrical accident caused young Askia to die.

00:39:45.180 --> 00:39:49.400
But after all, it was just an accident so what more can you do?

00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:54.170
Askia’s parents didn’t accept that though, and they pressed charges against Daniel.

00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:59.850
Eight months after the fire, on May 25th, 2018, Daniel was arrested and charged with

00:39:59.850 --> 00:40:05.920
second-degree depraved-heart murder and involuntary manslaughter.

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.220
Depraved-heart is an unusual charge.

00:40:08.220 --> 00:40:12.190
A second-degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or deliberate.

00:40:12.190 --> 00:40:17.520
A depraved-heart murder falls under this second-degree charge, but to be found guilty of a depraved-heart

00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:22.590
murder means you have had to take an extreme risk with someone else’s life, taking a

00:40:22.590 --> 00:40:25.900
risk you are aware of that could result in injury or death.

00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:31.330
If that risk you are aware of is extreme enough and someone dies from that, then you could

00:40:31.330 --> 00:40:34.380
be found guilty of a depraved-heart murder.

00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:36.740
This is what Daniel was faced with.

00:40:36.740 --> 00:40:41.360
Was he aware that the conditions he made Askia work under were extremely risky?

00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.370
Was Daniel showing reckless disregard for human life?

00:40:44.370 --> 00:40:47.930
The jury would have to decide.

00:40:47.930 --> 00:40:53.430
A month later and Daniel secured a bond for $100,000.

00:40:53.430 --> 00:40:58.350
His defense attorney said the fire was a tragic accident and not a criminal act and that Askia

00:40:58.350 --> 00:41:00.120
was not forced into the tunnels.

00:41:00.120 --> 00:41:01.120
Here’s his attorney.

00:41:01.120 --> 00:41:03.120
ATT’N: He was not held against his will.

00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:10.150
That guy posted pictures of him in the tunnels in his garb and shared with his friends on

00:41:10.150 --> 00:41:11.530
Twitter and Facebook.

00:41:11.530 --> 00:41:12.530
Look at those things.

00:41:12.530 --> 00:41:15.450
JACK: I’ve looked over some of the presentations Daniel put together.

00:41:15.450 --> 00:41:19.310
Specifically, the one on DIY nuke-proofing was really impressive.

00:41:19.310 --> 00:41:24.060
In this presentation Daniel listed a lot of safety precautions that must be considered

00:41:24.060 --> 00:41:28.560
such as what kind of soil types need support and what kind of support works best, and that

00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:31.550
egg-shaped tunnels have the least likely chance of collapsing.

00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:35.720
He mentioned that you have to constantly be checking for any deformations on the ground

00:41:35.720 --> 00:41:40.130
above where the tunnels are and always be looking for cracks in walls and add support

00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:41.680
whenever you see one.

00:41:41.680 --> 00:41:45.240
He talked about what kind of ventilation you need, especially when running gas engines

00:41:45.240 --> 00:41:49.240
down there, and what kind of water pumps are required in case of flooding.

00:41:49.240 --> 00:41:53.540
He even mentioned in his research that it’s highly recommended that you call 811 to get

00:41:53.540 --> 00:41:57.150
someone from the city to come show you where the gas lines are on your property because

00:41:57.150 --> 00:42:00.480
digging into one of these will probably kill you.

00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.140
It’s really impressive how much safety precautions Daniel was aware of.

00:42:04.140 --> 00:42:08.150
I can’t say for sure how much of this was put into practice but I feel like he probably

00:42:08.150 --> 00:42:11.660
did most of it since he didn’t want any tunnels to collapse himself.

00:42:11.660 --> 00:42:15.190
At the same time Daniel faced a wave of further legal action.

00:42:15.190 --> 00:42:19.790
Montgomery County filed a lawsuit to get the tunnels filled in and the house demolished.

00:42:19.790 --> 00:42:24.480
Askia’s parents filed a Civil Wrongful Death Lawsuit, blaming Daniel for his actions for

00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.200
the death of their son.

00:42:26.200 --> 00:42:31.060
The lawsuit filed by the county revealed some pretty interesting information about the tunnels.

00:42:31.060 --> 00:42:34.700
Not only does the county believe the tunnels extend beyond the edge of Daniel’s property,

00:42:34.700 --> 00:42:38.010
but they fear the tunnels reach under the public road.

00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:41.790
How far did they go towards neighboring houses, they’re asking?

00:42:41.790 --> 00:42:45.220
Investigators still felt it was too dangerous to investigate the tunnels.

00:42:45.220 --> 00:42:48.630
They just can’t get themselves in there properly to take a look.

00:42:48.630 --> 00:42:53.690
Really, no one but Daniel knows how deep and long these tunnels are.

00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:58.380
State Attorney John McCarthy called these tunnels a danger to life and limb and he said

00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:01.620
that even robots can’t be used to explore them because the tunnels were designed on

00:43:01.620 --> 00:43:03.300
different levels.

00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:06.150
Robots need a nice, level surface to roll on.

00:43:06.150 --> 00:43:10.180
Montgomery County, desperate to know the state of the tunnels, wants Daniel to employ an

00:43:10.180 --> 00:43:13.070
experienced structural engineer to assess them.

00:43:13.070 --> 00:43:18.090
They want a 3-D model made to show the extent of the tunnels and they want markers put above

00:43:18.090 --> 00:43:22.590
the ground to highlight exactly how far the tunnels go, and a clear plan to get them safely

00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:26.020
filled and the house torn down.

00:43:26.020 --> 00:43:31.300
On April 10th of this year, 2019, eighteen months after the fire killed Askia, Daniel

00:43:31.300 --> 00:43:32.680
went on trial.

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Twelve jurors listened to seven days of the prosecution’s case.

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[00:45:00] The State Prosecution alleged that Daniel’s tunnels, hoarding, and haphazard

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electrical chain providing power to the tunnels, were all to blame.

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As far as the prosecution was concerned, Daniel knew the risk and was fully aware of the dangerous

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situation in the tunnels.

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The situation that he had put Askia in but still didn’t do anything when it was clear

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that the danger was imminent.

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This, they said, made Daniel responsible for Askia’s death.

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Fire fighters who attended the scene described Daniel’s house as a hoarder’s paradise.

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County firefighter Don Boyd said that both the first and second floors were piled with

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three to four feet of items and debris.

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Down in the basement these piles rose to five to seven feet with narrow pathways which made

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moving difficult and doorways hidden.

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He told the jury it took over three weeks for a twenty-four-man team of firefighters

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to clear everything out.

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That says a lot about how much stuff was collected in that house.

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In trial, the prosecutors also pulled up Daniel’s talk at Shmoocon.

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They were especially keen to point out his descriptions on how to make thermite and destroy

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computer data that had been obtained by hacking.

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A lesson on how to get away with computer hacking, they said, all presented while wearing

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his full fire-retardant suit.

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After the fire, investigators found various materials; liquids and chemicals inside the

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house.

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Now, chances are a lot of that was used in his data destruction experiments for Shmoocon

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but the authorities, taken with Daniel’s past, were really wondering what Daniel was

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up to.

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The local media in Maryland really jumped all over this case.

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Throughout the two-week trial there were a ton of articles and they called Daniel a wealthy

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stock trader, a millionaire, a computer whiz, and a paranoid computer hacker.

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Even his own defense attorney, Robert Bonsib, described Daniel as being a very interesting

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person.

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He said quote, “Mr. Beckwitt is an unusual individual.

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He participates in online communities with interesting theories on world events.

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Some could call him conspiratorial.”

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End quote.

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The defense actually submitted a motion to the judge for Daniel to be acquitted and the

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trial be dismissed.

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The judge denied this immediately, saying this case was similar to employers who must

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provide a safe working environment for their employees.

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The trial continued.

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In explanation for building the tunnels, Daniel’s attorney said Daniel had concerns about inter-continental

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ballistic missiles so he started this project to create a secure bunker.

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He compared Daniel’s vision to this nuclear bomb shelter similar to what people would

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build in their backyard during the Cold War.

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Douglas Hart, the guy who worked in the tunnels before Askia, testified for the defense.

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He revealed too, that he was led into the basement to the entrance of the tunnels wearing

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dark glasses with tape over the lenses.

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This was after being driven around in a car so he couldn’t identify the locations of

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the tunnels.

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But Daniel himself did not take the stand to testify and I’m quite sure the risks

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of what the prosecution would ask him while up there on the stand, considering his past

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and his paranoia, were just too high to be chancing.

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The defense kept their case pretty simple.

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They said these events were a terrible accident and they repeated that Daniel can not be held

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criminally responsible for an accident.

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Montgomery County prosecutors, on the other hand, told the jury that Daniel’s behavior

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showed a total disregard for public safety.

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Not only that, but his actions created a death trap which he walked Askia right into.

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On April 23rd, 2019, the jury retired to deliberate.

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In just twenty-four hours they came back with their verdicts.

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They found Daniel guilty of both second-degree depraved-heart murder and involuntary manslaughter.

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[MUSIC] In June 2019, the judge sentenced Daniel Beckwitt to nine years in prison for

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the death of Askia.

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Now that the criminal trial is complete, the civil lawsuits filed by Montgomery County

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and Askia’s parents will move forward.

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They’re probably going to knock down his house and fill in those tunnels soon.

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Daniel has a few more legal battles to go.

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Looking over all the information I have, I still feel like something is missing.

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Hearing that the tunnels were dug just for a bomb shelter doesn’t feel like the whole

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story.

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I feel like there was something more to those tunnels and there’s still more secrets that

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Daniel is holding.

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I’ve been in a lot of tunnels myself and the pictures of this one remind me much more

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of the mines I’ve been in and less like bomb shelters.

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It just makes me think maybe Daniel was digging for something else down in the dirt, looking

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for something down there.

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Daniel has a lot of raw intelligence.

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It’s very impressive, actually.

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But fear and paranoia can bring down even the smartest and brightest among us.

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Fear divides us.

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It’s what makes our neighbors and friends enemies.

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Basing your beliefs because of fear, or finding friends because you share the same fears seems

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normal but it can tear us apart.

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Daniel built his tunnels based on fear and it was a lot of work.

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Imagine if he spent that energy on something positive and not out of fear.

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He could have made advancements in chemistry or helped hundreds of people [00:50:00] with

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something.

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Prepping for an emergency is a good idea.

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Everyone should be ready to handle a few weeks without water and power but Daniel took this

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prepping too far.

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If two hundred feet of tunnels weren’t enough, what was?

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If you keep building tunnels DIY style like this, eventually something will go terribly,

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terribly wrong.

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Daniel’s work, while under the influence of fear, ended up with him in prison and Askia

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dead.

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I like to quote the truth wherever I find it and here’s something that Master Yoda

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taught me about fear.

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YODA: Fear is the path to the dark side.

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Fear leads to anger.

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Anger leads to hate.

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Hate leads to suffering.

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JACK: Here’s another thing Buffalo Springfield taught me about paranoia and fear.

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BUFFALO: [MUSIC] Paranoia strikes deep.

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Into your life it will creep.

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Starts when you’re always afraid.

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Step out of line, the man come and take you away.

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We better stop.

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Hey, what’s that sound?

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